Italy to axe more F-35s and one aircraft carrier (which appears on eBay)

Mar 24 2014 - 8 Comments

Italy’s new Government is considering another cut of its order of 90 F-35s. But the Spending Review is targeting Rome’s older aircraft carrier. Which has already appeared on eBay.

Although nothing has been decided yet, it’s hard to believe the current plan to buy 90 F-35 to replace the aging fleet of Tornado IDS, AMX (Italian Air Force) and AV-8B+ (Italian Navy) will survive the cuts already announced by the new Renzi cabinet.

Italy plans to save 3 billion Euro (4.18 billion USD) in defense savings over the next three years, money that will come from the sale of some barracks and military buildings, from a reduction of the personnel, and from cuts to some top spending programs, first of all the F-35, on which the government has so far committed to spend some 12 billion Euro.

Dealing with the F-35, the order will be “revised,” meaning that cuts are certain, considering the amount of attention and criticism that surround the program. But, it is almost impossible to predict the extent of the revision.

Some media outlets have foreseen a drastic cut to 45 planes, half of the current plan, and about one third of the initial requirement, set to 131 Joint Strike Fighters.

The center-left PD (Democratic Party) defense committee has just published a paper about the current state of Italy’s weapons systems, highlighting the need for a significant reduction on F-35 procurement, because:

  • the program does not guarantee industrial gains for Italian industry
  • is characterized by too much variability (in terms of cost)
  • current costs do not include armament
  • Italy will not be allowed to access core sensitive technology, an embargo which “determines a factor of operational dependency on American political-industrial instances

The 10-page paper (in Italian, can be downloaded here) envisages an Air Force with two front line combat planes: the F-35 and the Eurofighter Typhoon. Noteworthy, the document highlights the multi-role capability demonstrated by the latter; it seems quite likely that, sooner or later, considered the cuts to the F-35s, the Italian Air Force (that so far has employed the Typhoon as an air superiority platform) will eventually commit its F-2000s to the air-to-surface role as done by the UK since Libya Air War.

Another issue raised by the document is the cost of the “operational redundancy” caused by the Italian Navy’s two aircraft carriers. The most obvious candidate to be scrapped is the Garibaldi, Italy’s first post-war aircraft carrier.

The Garibaldi, joined by the larger and more capable Cavour in 2008, could be sold to some emerging country looking for second-hand helicopter carrier capable to support Amphibious Assault operations.

In the meanwhile, you can place a bid to buy the Italian aircraft carrier on the auction someone has wryly put on eBay.

Garibaldi on eBay


Image credit: Lockheed Martin (top); eBay screenshot (above).


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  • R.Lopaka

    Maybe PRC, India or Paul Allen will buy the carrier.

  • Gyoz

    Europeans are on the smart and really inline with latest developments.

    Supplying two french Mistral amphibious ships to Russia, cutting aircrafts and carries on their part.

    • Ed

      Well, Europe isn’t one country. France won’t decide not to sell Mistrals (and miss out on millions) just because Italy can’t afford their carrier. Likewise, Italy won’t cut spending just because France has a deal.

  • Gemini

    David you well know how reliable is the paper form the PD you referred in this post.
    For the Italian speaking readers of this blog here’s the evaluation of this document from the former italian Chief of Staff Gen. Camporini:
    For the English-speaking readers intersted in this matter, a comment from the excellent blog UK Armed Forces Commentary:

    Noteworthy for all that in the document from the PD party the RAPHALE is indicated as the “french variant of Typhoon”.

  • Shawn Chung

    Decommissioning the Garabaldi would make some sense as she’s quite a small carrier that simply doesn’t have the space to handle modern aircraft in sufficent numbers. I once saw her with an AW101 on deck and she looked a little undersized,and the F-35B is not only bigger than the AV-8B but more than twice the weight.

    The Marina Militare is also supposedly phasing out two of San Giorgio class LPDs for LHDs twice their size (20,000 tons) by the end of the decade. It’s quite conceivable that these new larger amphibious assault ships would adopt a similar aviation role to the US Wasp or Spanish Juan Carlo class with F-35Bs.

  • Ser Arthur Dayne

    Haters gonna hate…a shame the cut was not done earlier in favor of some more T3 typhoons

  • I hear Facebook is bidding on the carrier – about $3 billion, 1/3 of that in stock.

    • Ardeare

      Facebook will never bid on Disqus without the down votes. Freedom of expression is gone………..and everyone can tell by the comments and lack of up votes.

      Even this comment is awaiting moderation??