As the majority of the readers of The Aviationist already know, there are very different opinions as to the outcomes of the dogfights between the U.S. Air Force F-22 Raptors and the German Air Force Eurofighter Typhoons during the recent Red Flag – Alaska.
Was the F-22 “overwhelming” or was it “salad” for the Eurofighter’s pilots lunch (that recounted several Raptor kills)?
Anyway, as the following photos taken by Dietmar Fenners at Neuburg on Jul. 18 seems to show, the German Air Force is particularly proud of the simulated shot down of several F-22s achieved during the mock engaments.
To such an extent two planes boast some F-22 Raptor kills.
Hence, at least in a (possibly unrealistic) WVR (Within Visual Range) air-to-air engagement with the Typhoon, the Raptor is not invincible.
However, as already explained several times, simulated kills scored during dissimilar BFM engagements don’t prove a fighter plane is better than another one, and are almost meaningless unless the actual Rules Of Engagement (ROE) and the training scenario are known.
Image credit: Dietmar Fenners
- Farnborough 2012: “Yesterday we had Raptor salad for lunch” Typhoon pilot said after dogfighting with the F-22 at Red Flag Alaska (theaviationist.com)
- Photo: F-22 Raptor refuels off the east coast (theaviationist.com)
- Photo: Eurofighter Typhoon’s kill markings. F-16, F-18 and Mirage 2000 among the shot down fighters (theaviationist.com)
- Typhoons, Raptors, Vipers and Eagles at the latest Red Flag Alaska. With many firsts and lasts. (theaviationist.com)
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- Photo: Costa Concordia shipwreck as seen from a Typhoon fighter jet (theaviationist.com)
- Anybody able to ID the new pod carried by a British Typhoon at RAF Coningsby? (theaviationist.com)
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High majority of deaths were civilians. US would have never be able to transfer several millions soldiers to the other part of the globe. So no they would have never defeated Nazi Germani without USSR. USSR though could do without US help as their help was only 10% of what USSR had.
US would have never be able to transfer several millions soldiers to the other part of the globe. So no they would have never defeated Nazi Germani without USSR. USSR though could do without US help as their help was only 10% of what USSR had.
Luftwaffe: Putting pretend Air-to-Air kills under canopies because they’ll never have real ones again.