F-22 Raptor kill markings shown off by German Eurofighter Typhoons. "The F-22 is not invincible" saga continues.

Jul 23 2012 - 41 Comments

As the majority of the readers of The Aviationist already know, there are very different opinions as to the outcomes of the dogfights between the U.S. Air Force F-22 Raptors and the German Air Force Eurofighter Typhoons during the recent Red Flag – Alaska.

Was the F-22 “overwhelming” or was it “salad” for the Eurofighter’s pilots lunch (that recounted several Raptor kills)?

Anyway, as the following photos taken by Dietmar Fenners at Neuburg on Jul. 18 seems to show, the German Air Force is particularly proud of the simulated shot down of several F-22s achieved during the mock engaments.

To such an extent two planes boast some F-22 Raptor kills.

Hence, at least in a (possibly unrealistic) WVR (Within Visual Range) air-to-air engagement with the Typhoon, the Raptor is not invincible.

However, as already explained several times, simulated  kills scored during dissimilar BFM engagements don’t prove a fighter plane is better than another one, and are almost meaningless unless the actual Rules Of Engagement (ROE) and the training scenario are known.

Image credit: Dietmar Fenners

  • CheetahFang258

    Do you guys want the real scoreboard for red flag?

  • Zero

    Seems everyone over there like to forget that the US supplied Russia with virtually everything from boots to planes to tanks to manufacturing expertise.

    • Paul

      They did, and they also supplied the Germans too!!!!

  • Guest123

    It is a brawl between two friendly nations. Both planes are good, the F-22 is thought of as exceptional. The german pilots bragging with their F-22 kills is a compliment if anything, learn to take them.

  • Nath

    I get bored with people constantly arguing who did what in WW2, without everyone it would have ended in favour of Germany. No one country is better than another all contributed what they could. Why the arguments when we came together as allies and won. Never understood why there is no respect for each other.