USAF QF-4 Phantom is shot at by an F-35 with two AIM-120s during last unmanned mission (and survives)

Aug 31 2016 - 47 Comments

During the last flight, the unmanned Phantom served as an aerial target and was shot at by an F-35 with two AIM-120s. Nevertheless, the aircraft landed safely back home.

The U.S. Air Force has just released some information about the QF-4 drone‘s last flight along with a video and some photographs. Interestingly, the aircraft that have flown as unmanned aerial targets for several DoD and foreign military sales customers testing next generation weapons, flew its last sortie supporting an F-35 mission on Aug. 17.

QF-4 returns safely 2

According to Lt. Col. Ronald King, the 82nd Aerial Targets Squadron, Detachment 1 commander, the aircraft was shot at by the F-35 Lightning II with two AIM-120 AMRAAMs (advanced medium range air-to-air missiles). We don’t know the exact scope of the weapon test, the RoE (Rules Of Enagement), the scenario and whether the QF-4 was expected to escape the downing. Maybe something went wrong, the missile launch failed or was cancelled, or just missed (because no missile has a probability of kill of 100 percent). However, it’s at least worth of note that the unmanned Phantom landed back at Holloman Air Force Base completely unharmed in spite of being targeted by the (controversial) 5th generation fighter and shot at with 2 radar-guided air-to-air missiles.

Update 1:

The reason for the QF-4 not being shot down is probably that the test was not a test of the AIM-120 missile’s ability to hit a target (something that has been proved in the past) but on the F-35’s ability to track the target and guide the AMRAAM until this reached the kill envelope. Once the missile starts self-guiding to the drone the test is accomplished and there is no need to waste a costy unmanned aircraft: the AIM-120 is directed to self-destruct before impact.

However some readers point out that previous tests saw some controversial “misses” (“the drone was beyond visual range and the AIM-120C was directed as planned to self-destruct before impact”) whereas other tests (for instance those with the AIM-9X) involving QF-4s or even more expensive QF-16s eventually led to knocking down the drone with direct hits (“After launch, the missile successfully acquired the target and followed an intercept flight profile before destroying the drone, achieving the first F-35 Air-to-Air kill or “Boola Boola,” which is the traditional radio call made when a pilot shoots down a drone.”)

Will keep you updated if more details emerge and the expected outcome of the mission is clarified.

Anyway, the unmanned mission on Aug. 17 served as the final unmanned flight before the QF-4 program ends in December year, and the 82nd ATRS, Det. 1 transitions to flying QF-16s. Until then, the unit will fly the Vietnam era F-4 as a manned aircraft.

Holloman Air Force Base, N.M. is the only base with a QF-4 mission. However, the 82nd ATRS, based out of Tyndall AFB, Florida, has been flying QF-16s since September 2014.

“It’s certainly bittersweet,” said King in a USAF release. “The F-4 served faithfully in Vietnam and as late as the Gulf War. So, for it to be pulled out of the boneyard to continue serving its country is a testament to this airplane — to the designers, the test pilots who first flew it, to the maintainers who’ve worked on it all these years — what a testament to what they’ve been able to do, and what a great airplane it was. Forty-five years later, we are still flying these airplanes to test the latest and greatest equipment we have.”

Image credit: U.S Air Force

 

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  • leroy

    Take the word “merge” and toss it from your (fighter) vocabulary. In modern air warfare, with an F-22 or F-35, there will be no more closing to the merge. No maneuvering, no kinetics (at least not the airplane – but certainly the missile), no yanking and banking. F-22, F-35 will detect an adversary first, shoot first, and kill first. WVR will only take place during rules-regulated training exercises.

    When your life is on the line, the only rule that counts is survival. You will do whatever is necessary to kill the enemy as quickly as you can. To not give him a chance to act against you (frankly you’re, well … adrenalized). F-35 and stealth has changed the way fighter(s) vs fighter(s) will destroy each other. As with a sniper, you’re gonna get the other guy quickly. Before he knows what hit him. Indeed, you’re gonna get the other guy first! Su-35, J-10, J-15, MiG-29/31? They’re just plain dead. Welcome to the world of 5th gen (F-22, F-35 – there are no others) fighters:

    http://media.defense.gov/2016/Sep/01/2001622452/750/422/0/160901-M-VA867-002.JPG

    Now – who still doesn’t “get it”?

  • leroy

    Lt. Col. David “Chip” Berke, USMC:

    “If you hear someone say, “Well, I heard the F-16 accelerates from 200 knots to 400 knots faster than the F-35,” you need to immediately acknowledge that you’re dealing with a dinosaur who’s asking the wrong questions, who misunderstands the capabilities of the platform. That’s someone who is trying to sell you a wall phone, and the Marine Corps and the Joint Service should not be in the business of buying wall phones any more. We need to be buying smart phones.”

    https://www.thecipherbrief.com/article/qualitative-advantage-1091

    Oh don’t I understand Chip! The Internet is full of dinosaurs. And they all think they are of the winged variety! lol!! To hell with ’em.

    • leroy

      One more item from Chip Berke:

      “I’ve always said this: the greatest advocates of the F-35 are the people closest to the program. The biggest skeptics and critics are the people farthest away from the program. The less you know about it, the less you understand it, and the more critical you are of it. If you ever hear someone pining away for the F-16 of 1979 or the F-18 of 1983 or the F-15 of the mid 70’s, you’re talking to a someone who’s so far behind the technology and what the airplane can do that to me, his criticisms are just totally unwarranted.”

      Enough said. The critics are what they’ve always been – clueless! Most are from little-known websites looking to generate traffic, Russian and Chinese government disinformation operatives, and peaceniks who hate all military spending. Is it any wonder that the public doesn’t have an understanding of F-35? That it is unmatched in air warfare. I think now that it is combat capable and proving itself regularly in both tests and exercises – I think the critics will quickly begin to disappear. After all, their “observations” were never more than one thing and one thing only – baseless lies.

  • alexey

    f35 is very big garbage.