“We Always Managed To Get Behind US-led Coalition Fighter Jets Encountered Over Syria” Cocky Russian Pilot Says

“We always found ourselves ‘on their tails’ as the pilots say, which means victory in a dogfight.” Just the latest chapter of Russia’s hybrid warfare in Syria?

Close encounters between Russian and U.S. aircraft over Syria are nothing new. What’s new is the way this close-quarter Russian/U.S. shadow boxing incidents are reported from both sides: two incidents, one on November 23 and another one on December 13, made headlines in Russia and the U.S. with differing accounts of the nearly identical incidents and the reasons they happened.

For instance, dealing with the first one, according to the Russian version, a Sukhoi Su-35S was scrambled after a U.S. F-22 interfered with two Su-25s that were bombing an Islamic State target and chased the Raptor away. The Russian account was denied by the U.S. Central Command, that in an email to The Aviationist explained that there was no truth in the allegation:

“According to our flight logs for Nov 23, 2017, this alleged incident did not take place, nor has there been any instance where a Coalition aircraft crossed the river without first deconflicting with the Russians via the deconfliction phone line set up for this purpose. Of note, on Nov 23, 2017, there were approximately nine instances where Russian fighter aircraft crossed to the east side of the Euphrates River into Coalition airspace without first using the deconfliction phone. This random and unprofessional activity placed Coalition and Russian aircrew at risk, as well as jeopardizing Coalition ability to support partner ground forces in the area.”

Dealing with the second incident, U.S. officials told Fox News that a USAF F-22 Raptor stealth fighter flew in front of a pair of Russian Air Force Su-25 Frogfoot attack jets near Al Mayadin, Syria, “an area off-limits to Russian jets based on a long-standing mutual agreement”. In an attempt to force the Russian aircraft to change course, the American stealth jet cut across the front of the Russian jets, and released flares (a tactic known as ‘head-butting,’ meant to send a strong warning to an opposing warplane).

A Russian Flanker flying at MAKS 2017 (Jacek Siminski)

Needless to say, this time it was the Russians to deny the version of events: according to the Russian MoD the Su-25s were escorting a humanitarian convoy on the western side of the Eurphrates and it was the U.S. aircraft that crossed the deconfliction line. “A Russian Su-35 fighter jet, performing an air cover mission at an altitude of 10,000 meters, swiftly approached the F-22 from the rear, forcing the American aircraft to leave the area.”

“We saw anywhere from six to eight incidents daily in late November, where Russian or Syrian aircraft crossed into our airspace on the east side of the Euphrates River,” Lt. Col. Damien Pickart of the U.S. Air Forces Central Command told U.S. news outlet CNN recently. “It’s become increasingly tough for our pilots to discern whether Russian pilots are deliberately testing or baiting us into reacting, or if these are just honest mistakes.”

On Dec. 29, the state-run RT media outlet reported:

Russian pilots always managed to get behind US-led coalition fighter jets they encountered in the skies over Syria, a Russian ace said after receiving a state award from President Putin at the Kremlin.

When meeting our partners from the Western coalition in the air, we always found ourselves ‘on their tails’ as the pilots say, which means victory in a dogfight,” Russian Airspace Forces major, Maksim Makolin, said.

The so-called ‘lag pursuit’ when the nose of an attacking plane points at the tail of the opponent’s aircraft is considered the optimum location in an aerial fight. It allows the plane at the back a range of options, from increasing or maintaining range without overshooting to freely attacking, all the while remaining concealed in the blind spot behind the defending aircraft.

Makolin became one of the 14,000 Russian servicemen who received state decorations for their courage and professionalism during the two-year-long Russian campaign in Syria.

We have already discussed these close encounters, the tactical value of supermaneuverability vs stealthiness, the ROE, etc. In this case it’s only worth noticing there is no attempt to ease tensions, quite the contrary, as if certain statements were part of a hybrid warfare made of actual aircraft, as well as cyber warfare, proxy forces and propaganda. In this respect, if you are willing to learn more about “Russia’s campaign to mislead the public and undermine democratic institutions around the world,” I suggest you reading this report here.  “It reveals how the Russian government is conducting a major multi-pronged propaganda campaign to spread false information… […]”

Image credit: Dmitry Terekhov from Odintsovo, Russian Federation/Wiki

About David Cenciotti
David Cenciotti is a journalist based in Rome, Italy. He is the Founder and Editor of “The Aviationist”, one of the world’s most famous and read military aviation blogs. Since 1996, he has written for major worldwide magazines, including Air Forces Monthly, Combat Aircraft, and many others, covering aviation, defense, war, industry, intelligence, crime and cyberwar. He has reported from the U.S., Europe, Australia and Syria, and flown several combat planes with different air forces. He is a former 2nd Lt. of the Italian Air Force, a private pilot and a graduate in Computer Engineering. He has written five books and contributed to many more ones.


  1. Ok, Let’s leave Russian claims, and read what Americans tell about that incident with pair of Su-25s:

    F-22 tried to make Frogfoots change the cource, flew in front of them and fired flares, but those pecky Russkies simply didn’t notice Raptor, and stayed on course! Moreover, F-22 had to perform aggressive maneuver (sic!) to avoid collision, in other words get out of Shturmovik’s way!
    I tell you, guys, these Russians had nerves of steel and totally defeated Yanks, morally, of course.
    According to AW, incident lasted 40 minutes. 40 minutes Raptors were flying around, firing flares, aggresively avoiding collisions, until Russians completed their mission and headed back to their base.
    Frankly, this is a total disaster: 5th Gen air superiority fighters could not do anything with these attack planes. Maybe that’s because of pair of Su-35s flying nearby?

    • It’s because of rules of engagement [ROE]. Neither the Russian nor the US governments want an escalation to destroy the overall arrangement which allows each to pursue its interests in Syria. The warplane drivers, however, have somewhat different interests. They are hired and trained to be aggressive and that’s the way they want to be. Conflicts ensue, such as the downing of an Russian Su-24 by a Turkish F-16. Russia kicked Turkey’s ass diplomatically and economically for that rudeness.

      • ???
        “The warplane drivers, however, have somewhat different interests.”?


        Those “warplane drivers” are military officers who FOLLOW ORDERS.

    • R “F-22 had to perform aggressive maneuver (sic!) to avoid collision, in other words get out of Shturmovik’s way! “…No they had to perform aggresive manouvres just to be noticed ! Raptors are not only very stealth in forntal aspect, but have best air to air radar in the world, at least until new aesa for typhoon get operative, and are very fast: they can easily detect any sukhoy 200km plus far awy and approach it from behind…Kinda obvious…Ilya sorry but you looks too much pitiful.

    • Oh, you mean the russians who’s planes have been shot down at a rate of 100- by all air forces of the world since the 1970s? Russian pilots and planes are pure garbage and it’s not opinion, it’s a number verified fact, get over it! Hahahaha!

    • llya,You believe what you want to believe.Sounds like Russian Fake News! All I can tell you that while your Su-25’s and your super duper SU-35 were tangling with the Raptor,your guys never saw the Raptors wing man in the sun on your 2 o’clock ! BOOM! F-22 are always in pairs !

  2. I seem to remember during a Hornet Ball -or so- video a russian Flanker being targeted by ATFLIR from below and behind, so it doesn’t look like always being on the Rhino’s six to me.

    I’m not much into propaganda whichever the “side” (so to speak), so let’s face it : once again, this claim is just a brag. Yet, I don’t understand, while high officials and military of each side on the field of action tend to cool down this tricky situation, why such rumors are still filling the web, piling unnecessary tension over tension…

  3. “a Russian ace said”

    Pray tell, when is the last time any Russian had the opportunity to become an “ace”? Korea?

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