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F-16 MLU vs Eurofighter Typhoon February 11, 2011

Posted by David Cenciotti in : Italian Air Force, Military Aviation, Winter Hide 2011 , trackback

Last year I published the pictures taken at Decimomannu airbase during Starex exercise, of the kill markings on two MB.339CDs clearly showing the silhouettes of three (2+1) F-2000 Typhoons (virtually) shot down during training engagements that took place inside the ACMI range.
This time I suggest you having a look at the following video, appeared on Youtube, showing a dogfight during exercise Winter Hide 2011 in Grosseto involving at least one F-16 MLU of the RDAF (Royal Danish Air Force) and one F-2000 of the Aeronautica Militare (Italian Air Force, ItAF), ending with what seems to be the virtual downing of the Italian Typhoon by means of gun.

Although interesting, the video, that generated a lot of comments on both Twitter and various forums, doesn’t prove the F-16 is better than the Typhoon in an air-to-air scenario, for the same reasons I already explained in the above mentioned post about the presumed F-2000 kills by the MB.339CDs: unless we actually know the RoE (Rules of Engagement) that were used for that Winter Hide 2011 mission, we can’t truly understand what led the F-16 in such a position to be able to get a shot at the Typhoon.
By the way: did you notice that the first 1 vs 1, in the first part of the video, terminates at an altitude below 3.000 feet (according to the Radar Altimeter)?
Below pictures were taken at Grosseto airbase by Giovanni Maduli on Feb. 10, 2011.

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  • http://www.aviation-report.com Matteo Marianeschi

    Hi David, I’ve been in Grosseto for the Media Day held in occasion of Winter Hide 2011; during the briefing Col.Morelli (4° Stormo Commander) presented two videos, similar to the one you have just published.
    The two videos rapresented a 1 vs 1 dogfight; the first was a Typhoon gun kill , the second was a Danish F-16′s one.
    Both the commanders (Italian and Danish) underline exactly what you have written: in both cases one pilot made some “plus” combat manouvering than the other and viceversa; this doesn’t mean that one plane is better than the other.
    Anyway it’s intersting to tell that the Danish commander admitted the Typhoon is a good 1vs1 fighter excpecially at medium/high altitudes…

    • Tulio

      Hi all,
      I dont understand why there’arent videos about italian typhoon victory in dogfights posted on yuotube. It’s boring to watch only dogfights among greek and turkish f-16s, or french mirages flying low altitudes.

    • http://gravatar.com/sereupin Paolo

      Our aviation should release the video where the typhoon “won” on the F16, so many ignorants will stop to insult our Aeronautica Militare Italiana for nothing.
      But probably they still didn’t understood that importance of internet and to have good image by people.
      Thanks.

  • foca

    What the pilot tells is basically that the F16 does have a chance against the Eurofighter at “lower speeds” -In other words: Usually not



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